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Garabandal and the Prophecy of a Pope Visiting Moscow

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The internet is on fire with articles, videos, and blogs, about the Garabandal prophecy of a pope visiting Moscow.  The following is an excerpt from the forthcoming book being released this fall titled: Garabandal — The Divine Reset, The Warning and the Miracle, Two Supernatural Events That Will Change the World.

 Austrian author Albrecht Weber, is the key figure in the Garbandal story, as it relates specifically to the story of the Moscow prophecy. He is the sole source of the Moscow prophecy story which he alleged took place in the kitchen of Conchita’s home on November 14, 1965, the day after the last apparition of November 13 at Garabandal. 

In 1993, Weber published a book in German called Garabandal—Der Zeigefinger Gottes , which in English is, Garabandal—The Finger of God, The book was sent to Pope John Paul II and his then assistant Bishop Stanislaus Dziwisz (1939—) who was later made Cardinal. In the year 2000 there was a revision of the book by Weber with the following written on page 19, and reprinted by Our Lady of Mount Carmel Garabandal Association, London, England, which then appeared in their newsletter in June of the same year. It reads:

May God reward you for everything, especially for the deep love with which you are making the events connected with Garabandal more widely known. May the message of the Mother of God find an entrance into hearts before it is too late. As an expression of joy and gratitude, the Holy Father gives you his apostolic blessing. 

Signed Msgr. Stanislaus Dziwicz

Inscribed was a greeting by Pope John Paull II in his own handwriting. This is just another instance of another’s belief from well-known and authoritative figures in the Church (a reigning pope no less) expressing belief in what happened in Garabandal.

There is an area of puzzlement on the Moscow prophecy. The following quote is attributed to Conchita by Albrecht Weber. It was not Conchita’s mother who said this as many claim. It was said by Conchita in a long conversation with Weber in her house on November 14, 1965.  It says, “ The pope will go to Moscow. As soon as he returns to the Vatican, hostilities will break out in different parts of Europe.”

It is true that Mr. Weber confirmed Conchita’s statement several times; at least once to the recently deceased American editor of the Garabandal Journal, Barry Hanratty (1938 – 2022). Argentine author, Santiago Lanus, with a Garabandal News Blog researched this quote. The blogger and Albrecht Weber were friends of Garabandal.

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However, the quote DOES NOT APPEAR anywhere inMr. Weber’s book, “ Garabandal – Der Zeigefinger Gottes ,” (1993, revised 2000).  People in possession of the Second Edition of the book, who have personally gone through the entire work seven (7) times have never found the word “Moscow” appear in the book. This research was independently confirmed to be correct by a Brazilian Garabandalist and friend of Santiago Lanus.

An unanswerable question remains: Why would Mr. Weber withhold such a unique and significant piece of information from his own publication, and also with a revision of his book in 2000? This remains a puzzle, and actually quite bizarre.

Weber writes:

Author : “When should we expect the Warning?”

Conchita: “When communism comes again everything will happen.”

Author: “What do you mean by comes again?”

Conchita : “Yes, when it newly comes again,” she replied.

Author: “Does that mean that communism will go away before that?”

Conchita: “I don’t know,” she said in reply, “the Blessed Virgin simply said ‘when communism comes again’.” Weber, Albrecht, Garabandal: Der Zeigefinger Gottes, 2000, p. 130

IF the pope does go to Moscow, and nothing happens “ as soon as he returns to the Vatican,” and events do not unfold as expected, it could be a reason some would see the prophecy unfulfilled, and fall away. However, the war in Ukraine and Russia is getting more dangerous by the day—and anything is now possible.

However, there is recently another reason that could have a much broader implication for the faithful who believe what happened at Garabandal, which would deflate enthusiasm for any apparition. On April 15, 2023, a new body was created by the International Pontifical Marian Academy ‘ to discern the different cases of Marian apparitions as well as mystical phenomena linked to the figure of the Virgin Mary. ” Its goal for the future is to prevent alleged messages from generating confusion inside the Church.  Father Stefano Cecchin, OFM, President of the Academy states, “ the apparitions which speak of the punishments from God are absolutely false.” This would mean under the new guidelines for authenticity, Fatima, Garabandal, La Salette, Tre Fontane, Akita, Medjugorje, and many others fall into this category. Of all reasons that have the potential to squash excitement among people for Garabandal, these are all serious considerations.

There are several possible scenario’s why people may fall away before the events. Conchita was asked about the timing of the Miracle, and her response was, “ The Miracle will not delay in coming. ”  Conchita added an interesting observation: Although it is taking time to come, it will not be late.  God’s time is always the appropriate time.” On another occasion, Conchita indicated people fall away not because of the timing of the Miracle, but for other reasons.

Pope Francis has expressed interest in visiting Moscow from as early as 2016, and said the same again on his way back to Rome after his five-day Greece and Cyprus trip in December 2021. Patriarch Kirill of Moscow then sent a representative soon after to the Vatican to work out details. However, no trip was announced. Pope Francis visited the Russian Embassy on February 25, 2022 in Rome, at the beginning of the Russia Ukraine war, making a plea for peace.

Patriarch Kirill and Pope Francis were on cordial speaking terms prior to the war in Ukraine, and have a history together. They have previously met at the Havana, Cuba airport, on February 12, 2016, just months before Fidel Castro died. Their meeting was for over two hours and was called extremely cordial. As the war continued in Ukraine, Kirill publicly sided with Vladimir Putin’s position on the war and talks cooled between the Vatican and Moscow. However, Pope Francis has continued to be resolute and he hopes to get an invitation from Putin and Patriarch Kirill to visit Moscow.

It is known that Putin disagrees with many of the more liberal positions of the World Economic Forum (WEF) and the liberal elites in the West, as well as their economic and social positions. Putin has stated on numerous occasions he does not want to bring Russia into the orbit of western Central Bank control and  LGBT, Transgender type social policies. Putin believes Ukraine under Zelensky is captive by these immoral and economic programs, and is a puppet of the west. He also believes that Ukraine is a giant laundering center washing cash for the west and the U.S. in particular. A trip to Moscow by Pope Francis could pose an embarrassment for Putin if peace terms are proposed, that he is unwilling to accept. The term in diplomatic circles for resolution to a conflict is an off ramp . The west has never given Putin an off ramp which prompted Pope Francis early on to say that the west provoked the war. If a meeting does take place, it could be called miraculous because the differences are so vast in the politics of the Church and state between the two countries.

May 13, 2023—Ukrainian President Zelensky and Pope Francis Meet

As the on-going Russia-Ukraine war continues, with massive destruction on both sides, on May 13, 2023 President V. Zelensky of Ukraine flew to Rome to meet with Pope Francis in a plea that the Pope would back his proposal for a peace plan. After a forty-minute meeting, few details were provided on a tangible solution to end the war. However, the press noted that the meeting did not go as Zelensky had hoped. May 13, 1917 was the first apparition of the Blessed Mother at Fatima, where Russia was central to the messages. The Vatican surely had this Fatima date in mind, after months of Vatican officials working back channels for a resolution to the war. What will be the final resolve to end the war, or the role of Pope Francis brokering a deal is anyone’s guess at this point. In June of 2023, the Vatican sent a delegation headed by Cardinal Zuppi to Kyiv (meeting was June 8 and 9) and Moscow to seek a settlement both sides could accept. Patriarch Kirill did meet with the delegation June 29, and 30 in Moscow. Whether or not this was a meeting to pave the way for Pope Francis is unknown, as the Vatican has said little.

On July 24, 2023 it was reported by the Russian press, that Pope Francis on his way to Mongolia or on the return trip home asked to meet Patriarch Kirill at the Moscow airport as the plane refuels. The dates proposed were either August 31, or September 4 or 5., as reported by TASS Pope Francis asked for a meeting at the airport in Moscow. 

Mongolia is the 19 th largest country in the world, and about the size of Alaska. It is sparsely populated with only 2.8 million people, and is between Russia to the north, and China to the south. There are an estimated 1,400 Catholics in all Mongolia. As a way for Pope France to get a meeting with Patriarch Kirill, this trip was used as a pretense that Francis has wanted for some time. This is another story we will wait to see if it comes to fruition. The on-going developments in this story will surely continue. To date, the press on this trip is from Russia, not the Vatican.

Ukraine at the beginning of the war was a country with 44 million people, and with millions either killed, wounded, or displaced to refugee status because of the war, at some point leaders will need to come to their senses and seek a proposal for peace and bury past conflicts and move towards the future. With approximately 45% of the Ukrainian population declaring themselves Russian, especially in the east and south, this is a problem that looks like there is no resolution at the moment.

  An Unorthodox Situation

This aspect of the Garabandal story will continue to change and evolve until a pope does visit Moscow at some point. The war in Ukraine will continue to drive the narrative for an official visit. On March 13, 2023 the story was reported that President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine ordered authorities to close the 980-year-old Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) Pechersk Lavra Monastery complex, which is under the authority of the Russian Orthodox Church. Zelensky gave them three weeks to vacate the premises after having a compound on the premises for nearly 1000 years. Zelensky asserts that the church is undermining Ukrainian unity and collaborating with Moscow. This prompted Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill to ask Pope Francis and others with influence to stop the shuttering of the facility. Zelensky further said by doing this, “ it is one more step towards strengthening our spiritual independence.” The Russian Orthodox Church has a long-established presence in Ukraine, and Zelensky now wants to close Ukrainian Orthodox Churches because he feels the church is undermining Ukrainian influence. Millions of people in the Ukraine who identify as Russian will take a strong stand against this, further complicating internal politics. What this will look like in the future is unknown as both sides see no common ground for peace. The war is a very complex situation between the warring factions who have a long and tumultuous history between them.

  Kirill has been a vocal advocate of Russia’s position in the war. If Kirill did not take the stance of Putin, then he would immediately be removed from his position as Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.

It has been nearly 1,000 years since Eastern Orthodoxy split from Rome, and it would be a significant event for some sort of reconciliation. Events are now pointing to the fruition of the prophecies by just looking at the social upheaval in the world and nuclear conflict as an increasing possibility. We may know shortly if Weber is correct.

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Moscow City Councilman John Weber dies

Moscow City Councilman John Weber was a “Moscow guy through and through,” as Mayor Bill Lambert puts it.

Weber died Wednesday after battling cancer the past two years. He was 70.

Weber lived 62 of his 70 years in Moscow, and he served eight years as a city councilor. He ran for re-election for a two-year seat on the council this year, but he was defeated Tuesday by newcomer Anne Zabala. His council term was set to expire in January.

Lambert said Weber formerly worked for a couple beer distributors and co-owned Sears at Eastside Marketplace. Weber also worked several years as jailer and bailiff under Latah County Sheriffs Ed Pierson and Mike Goetz, according to stories in the Daily News archives.

Lambert said Weber was one of the founding board members of the Moscow Urban Renewal Agency. Tim Brown, a friend of Weber’s, said he helped Weber fix and install beer taps the past couple years.

Weber went through the Moscow school system, graduating from Moscow High School in 1965 and later the University of Idaho with an undergraduate degree and a master’s in business administration.

Lambert said he had known Weber since 1977. Lambert, who formerly worked as the Safeway store director, said Weber was the first person he met outside of Safeway employees when he moved to Moscow 40 years ago. Weber and Lambert later served on the City Council together starting in 2006.

Lambert said Weber was a straight shooter, dependable and well-liked.

“He was just a damn good friend,” Lambert said. “You couldn’t have a better friend. He was a good friend to not only me but many people out there. He touched a number of different lives. If you had John Weber as a friend, you had a friend for life.”

Lambert said Weber’s heart was always in the right place.

“He always wanted to do what was right for the overall community,” Lambert said. “He always wanted to do right by people.”

Lambert said he, Weber and other friends took golfing trips to Oregon during the fall.

“It was a fun time,” Lambert said. “It was a guys’ trip.”

City Councilman Walter Steed served six years on the council with Weber, including the past four.

“John never met anybody that couldn’t be his friend,” Steed said. “He was extremely social.”

Steed said he did not meet Weber until the two ran for a council seat in 2005, but since then, they have been good friends.

“If you wanted somebody just to talk to or brag about something or complain about something, or just jaw about something, John was your guy,” Steed said.

He said he is glad Weber is no longer experiencing the physical agony he endured during his battle with cancer and through chemotherapy treatments.

Steed said Weber stayed strong.

“His attitude stayed good all the way through, amazingly,” Steed said.

Brown and Weber graduated in the same MHS class.

“He was a great guy,” said Brown, who owned Brown’s Furniture in Moscow and also served on the City Council. “I loved being around him. He had a great sense of humor. He certainly gave a lot to Moscow.”

Brown said Weber was a big part of his life and he will miss him.

“I thought he was a very honorable guy, and he was a good friend,” Brown said. “Good friends are hard to come by and hard to keep.”

Chuck Bond, another friend of Weber’s, said Weber always did the right thing at the right time.

“Moscow will be a smaller place without him,” Bond said.

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     Moscow City Councilman John Weber has died.  Weber lost a 2 year battle with cancer last night.  He was completing the end of his 2nd 4-year term on city council.  Weber was first elected to council in 2005 before running for Mayor 4 years later.  He was then elected to council a 2nd time in 2013. 

     Moscow Mayor Bill Lambert has issued a statement regarding Weber’s passing, “John was a great friend both personally and professionally.  His commitment to Moscow has been evident his entire life.  He had a passion for this community and our citizens.  We will miss John’s humor and perspectives.  Moscow lost a great one today.” 

     Weber lost his re-election bid on Tuesday.  He graduated from Moscow High School in 1965 and earned his degree from the University of Idaho.  

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Hopkins Covers Stalin and the Moscow Trials

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From The Militant , Vol. V No. 35 , 30 August 1941, p. 5. Transcribed & marked up by Einde O’ Callaghan for the Encyclopaedia of Trotskyism On-Line (ETOL) .

Hopkins Investigates Russia

The significant meeting between Roosevelt arid Churchill was preceded by the sudden trip of Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt’s present alter ego, to Moscow. Hopkins stayed in Russia just long enough to have one of those intimate chats with Stalin – and then returned completely enlightened concerning the whole situation in Soviet Russia. Since the wording of the three points in his report to Roosevelt, as given in the press, has not been in any way denied, and especially since it fits in so well with the needs of the “Allies,” we can accept the widespread accounts as fairly accurate.

First of all Hopkins reported that the Red Army was still intact as a fighting force. The High Command of the Russian army was still functioning well, and this command was in uninterrupted communication with the Soviet government in Moscow. That is all to the good, of course. This item in the report was intended to reassure those reactionaries who were using the argument that any aid given to Stalin would not only be useless, but actually harmful since what was sent might soon fall into the hands of the victorious Hitler.

Even the more recent retreats of the Red Army, particularly from the Ukraine, and the threat to Leningrad, are not looked upon as menacing the continuance of Russian resistance to Hitler. The seizure of the Ukraine by the German army and the possible fall of the great industrial district about and in Leningrad, will be very grave blows at the Red Army and at Soviet Russia, but they will not be immediately fatal. It seems quite certain by now that the war in Russia will continue during the coming winter.

The second point in the Hopkins report is also all to the good. It is certainly clear that Hitler had banked on two false premises. First of all, he had underestimated the strength of the Red Army and its power of resistance. In this he was not alone. The enemies of Russia hoped that the purges of the commanding staffs of the Red Army carried out by Stalin solely as a preventive measure to maintain himself in power, had so undermined the Red Army and so beheaded it that it would prove an easy victim for the fascists.

But Hitler had not only miscalculated concerning the strength of the Red Army. He had also miscalculated concerning the strength of the reactionary forces in the Soviet Union waiting for the chance to strike a blow at the USSR. Hitler had banked on the possibility of a counter-revolution directed against Stalin for the restoration of capitalism. Hopkins therefore brings the reassurance that no such Fifth Column movement materialized and that the whole Soviet Union is united in the courageous struggle against the fascist foe.  

Hopkins and the Purges

Had Hopkins stopped there, we might not have taken the trouble to comment on what is obvious. But the second point is tied up with a third. The third one is an attempt to “explain” the others. It is also an attempt to lend political aid to Stalin – for a return in kind! What brought about the “unity” of the Soviet Union in the desperate struggle against the fascists? Hopkins tells us that it was Stalin’s remarkable foresight in ridding himself of all “dissident”’ and oppositional elements in the period before Hitler’s march into Russia.

In this fashion Hopkins tries to uphold Stalin’s hand in regard to all the purges and all the infamous Moscow trials. The Stalinists brazenly asserted after every purge that Stalin had strengthened the Soviet Union, not weakened it. They resorted to the fakery of amalgams, classing together the revolutionists with the counter-revolutionists. All opposition to the murderous Stalin was made to appear as opposition to the Soviet Union.

Hopkins wants us at this late ate to accept this long-exposed Stalinist version. He wants us to believe that the present unity of the Soviet workers and peasants against Hitler, is the same’ thing as complete support of Stalin, past and present. Nothing could be more false.

The Soviet masses understand very well that the hordes of Hitler are the worst and most dangerous enemy to the Soviet Union. Their fight is now directed against this fascist imperialist that threatens to deprive them of the last, most fundamental conquests of the October Revolution – the nationalized property and the monopoly of foreign trade. For the time being, until this fight against the main enemy is settled, or is near completion, the masses continue to tolerate Stalinism.  

Hopkins Hates October Too

Evidently Stalin does not believe his own lies about the nature of the unified struggle against Hitler. For he is preparing betimes, while the attention of the workers is completely taken up by the life-and-death struggle against Hitler, to take all measures against any later attempts at his own removal. That is shown by the establishing of the war dictatorship and the renewed attempt to set up GPU control of the armed forces.

Why did Hopkins give Salin this political support? Because he and Stalin have a common enemy – the October Revolution, the revolution of the working class. Roosevelt-Churchill have made it clear that they intend exacting from Stalin the promise (as though that were in his power!) that he will not attempt to foster any western European revolution during or after the present war. Clearly also the “Allies” fear any possibility of the resurgence of the revolution in Soviet Russia itself. They know very well that they can rely on Stalin to do everything possible to prevent this. Thus Roosevelt and Stalin are showing a united purpose to aim blows not only against Hitler but against the revolutionary workers. Stalin has already given evidence that he will continue his “purges” of revolutionists even during the present war. In this he will have the full support of the “Allies.”

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Urban forests of Moscow: typological diversity, succession status, and fragmentation assessment

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  • Volume 38 , pages 3767–3789, ( 2023 )

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Urban forests provide ecosystem services such as temperature regulation, air purification, carbon sequestration and biodiversity conservation. It is important to perform baseline assessment and regular monitoring of biodiversity, vegetation dynamics and spatial structure of urban forests. Most cities suffer from the lack of a unified monitoring system. The heterogeneity of Moscow territory land use determines different functions and state of urban forests. To what extent are the forests of modern Moscow support natural resource and ecological potential, and what are the risks in maintaining the social and ecological needs of the population in the urban region?

Assessment of typological diversity, succession status and spatial structure of Moscow forests in the context of three sectors of different land use.

This study integrates typological (cenotic), succession and fragmentation approaches on the basis of remote sensing data. Field relevés were used for cenotic classification into forest formations and association groups. Random forest algorithm was used for cartographic modeling. Forest patches assigned with formations and groups of associations were subject of diversity, dynamics and spatial structure of forests analysis.

Current study presents the assessment of the composition and spatial structure of the Moscow forests in the context of three sectors of different anthropogenic pressure and land use. 11 forest formations and 33 association groups were identified. Overall accuracy of cartographic modeling was 59% for association groups, and 67% for formations. Unsatisfactory ability of forests to support social and ecological needs of residents was revealed especially in the central part of the city. The combination of low fragmentation metrics with a high proportion of long-term derivative forest types is critical for the sustainable existence of forest cover within city center. With distance from the center a fairly high typological diversity of forests is noted.

The combination of low fragmentation metrics with a high proportion of long-term derivative forest types is critical for the sustainable existence of the forest cover. Overall, the methodology and results of the work create a basis for regular monitoring of the Moscow forests, as well as in other urban areas.

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The authors thank many colleagues who participated in the collection of the primary material, among whom the proportion in relevés is E.G. Suslova, E.V. Tikhonova, O.A. Pesterova, N.G. Kadetov, O.V. Morozova, M.A. Arkhipova, S.Yu. Popov.

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